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ctc911ctc |
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All,
As we all are, I am a bit obsessed with these cars and see a few more of them on my horizon, I would like to purchase a set of fasteners for the future so I am not waiting on the more specialized vendors. I found myself measuring a 6mmx1.0 - 12mm long bolt and thought - someone has a list - or the holy grail - some vendor has a button I can push to order all of the correct fasteners? Any ideas or leads? CTC911CTC |
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Member ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 92 Joined: 28-December 16 From: Detroit metro area Member No.: 20,709 Region Association: Upper MidWest ![]() ![]() |
That seems like a daunting and really expensive task. These things came with good quality fasteners. I'd suggest that if you plan to rebuild/restore one in the future, just pull them all out, and drop them off at a plater. It'll cost you a hundred bucks give or take to do the entire car...
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Senior Member ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,063 Joined: 9-June 18 From: boston Member No.: 22,206 Region Association: North East States ![]() ![]() |
Already went that route - locally anodizing is pretty expensive - I have about 1/2 of them picked already on BelMetric - will continue depending on the outcome of this ask.
Thank you Detroit! That seems like a daunting and really expensive task. These things came with good quality fasteners. I'd suggest that is you plan to rebuild/restore one in the future, just pull them all out, and drop them off at a plater. It'll cost you a hundred bucks give or take to do the entire car... |
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Member ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 78 Joined: 30-May 20 From: Toronto, Canada Member No.: 24,334 Region Association: Canada ![]() |
Here's the hardware list I put together a few years ago:
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Member ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 92 Joined: 28-December 16 From: Detroit metro area Member No.: 20,709 Region Association: Upper MidWest ![]() ![]() |
Damn, gord, that must've taken ages...
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914 Wizard ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 11,904 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Colorado Member No.: 47 Region Association: Rocky Mountains ![]() ![]() ![]() |
nice list.....
95 pages. seems like re-using hardware is the easy button. brant |
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914-6 GT in waiting ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 19,799 Joined: 19-September 09 From: Landenberg, PA/Wilmington, DE Member No.: 10,825 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region ![]() ![]() |
I’ve wired wheeled a lot of the fasteners and sent them out. Call PMB. Their rates are much better than your local guy (true 6?). Bel metric is fine for the normal stuff but at least a small percentage of the hardware is special to Porsche and the large nuts and bolts are expensive. I’ve done a couple parts in the past.
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Senior Member ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,063 Joined: 9-June 18 From: boston Member No.: 22,206 Region Association: North East States ![]() ![]() |
When you finished the car did it smell new?
Love the level of hardware attention - even the headlight mounting system! Thank you, VERY IMPRESSIVE I’ve wired wheeled a lot of the fasteners and sent them out. Call PMB. Their rates are much better than your local guy (true 6?). Bel metric is fine for the normal stuff but at least a small percentage of the hardware is special to Porsche and the large nuts and bolts are expensive. I’ve done a couple parts in the past. |
ctc911ctc |
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Senior Member ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,063 Joined: 9-June 18 From: boston Member No.: 22,206 Region Association: North East States ![]() ![]() |
If you like data - and I love data - this is an amazing list
My Belmetric Order just got sweet - also I will contact PMB for the not generic stuff. Here's the hardware list I put together a few years ago: ![]() (IMG:style_emoticons/default/pray.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/pray.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/pray.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/first.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/first.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/first.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/first.gif) |
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Advanced Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 2,047 Joined: 17-December 07 From: Blackhawk, CA Member No.: 8,476 Region Association: None ![]() ![]() |
Where does the color come from? Also, German steel?
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Hey Cary The best way to clean up your engines appearance is to use only the original hardware and finishes. Porsche used certain suppliers who proudly marked their bolts with their company name or a letter identifier. You'll find this is true of all of the 6mm tin and bolt fasteners on your engine. The car is very original and undisturbed. Best plan is to keep it that way. You don't want to hear this but degreasing, wire wheeling and plating the hardware is an investment in the value of the car. If you are short on standard hardware I probably have correct bolts. Flat washers, wave washers ( by size) and split washers can be bought in bulk. Rory |
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Senior Member ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,063 Joined: 9-June 18 From: boston Member No.: 22,206 Region Association: North East States ![]() ![]() |
Good to know, the 6mm 1.0, x 12m hex bolts for the engine tin are in pretty bad shape - if they are marked as original - can you let me know how I would tell? I can send the hardware to PMB to be replated or may do it myself.........simple process.
I am de-greasing everything - check out the next set of pictures (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) Hey Cary The best way to clean up your engines appearance is to use only the original hardware and finishes. Porsche used certain suppliers who proudly marked their bolts with their company name or a letter identifier. You'll find this is true of all of the 6mm tin and bolt fasteners on your engine. The car is very original and undisturbed. Best plan is to keep it that way. You don't want to hear this but degreasing, wire wheeling and plating the hardware is an investment in the value of the car. If you are short on standard hardware I probably have correct bolts. Flat washers, wave washers ( by size) and split washers can be bought in bulk. Rory |
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Senior Member ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,063 Joined: 9-June 18 From: boston Member No.: 22,206 Region Association: North East States ![]() ![]() |
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914 Guru ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 8,291 Joined: 3-August 19 From: SW Colorado Member No.: 23,343 Region Association: Rocky Mountains ![]() ![]() |
I guess you could go through every page in the factory parts catalog. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/headbang.gif)
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Advanced Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 4,722 Joined: 23-November 05 From: Paramus NJ Member No.: 5,176 Region Association: None ![]() ![]() |
Good to know, the 6mm 1.0, x 12m hex bolts for the engine tin are in pretty bad shape - if they are marked as original - can you let me know how I would tell? I can send the hardware to PMB to be replated or may do it myself.........simple process. I am de-greasing everything - check out the next set of pictures (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) Hey Cary The best way to clean up your engines appearance is to use only the original hardware and finishes. Porsche used certain suppliers who proudly marked their bolts with their company name or a letter identifier. You'll find this is true of all of the 6mm tin and bolt fasteners on your engine. The car is very original and undisturbed. Best plan is to keep it that way. You don't want to hear this but degreasing, wire wheeling and plating the hardware is an investment in the value of the car. If you are short on standard hardware I probably have correct bolts. Flat washers, wave washers ( by size) and split washers can be bought in bulk. Rory Cary these are the two most commonly used fasteners on 916 6 / 911 tin If you are short on them let me know. The machine screw is KAMAX Attached thumbnail(s) ![]() ![]() |
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Member ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 78 Joined: 30-May 20 From: Toronto, Canada Member No.: 24,334 Region Association: Canada ![]() |
Damn, gord, that must've taken ages... I deal with a lot of metadata in my job, so I had a few tools that made it much quicker than you might guess. The hard part was figuring out the incomplete or erroneous details in the PET diagrams… and some mysteries I’ve only partially solved. |
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Senior Member ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,482 Joined: 25-June 09 From: North Shore, Massachusetts Member No.: 10,509 Region Association: North East States ![]() |
Unless something drastic has changed in the past year or so, Tru-6
is not a plater.. He is a middle man.. You send your parts there and they get cleaned and prepped and then he sends them out to be plated. When he gets them back they are tumbled and shined up and send back to you. He does what would be considered "value added services" and charges for that. You can do your own cleanup and prep and send parts to a plater yourself.. If you are looking for a plater, I would try looking up a reputable restoration shop in your area and ask where they send their parts.. |
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Senior Member ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 605 Joined: 8-August 20 From: Santa Rosa, CA Member No.: 24,575 Region Association: Northern California ![]() ![]() |
Any ideas or leads? The Wurth Metric hardware set in yellow cad is a nice assortment of common fasteners to have on hand. It has saved me waiting for days to get one stupid bolt or washer on several occasions. |
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I am Tangerine Racing ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 7,979 Joined: 29-January 03 From: Bolton, CT Member No.: 209 Region Association: None ![]() ![]() |
I was pretty happy with the hardware kits from Automobile Atlanta which were purchased during a couple of restorations done at my shop. That was more than 5 years ago so I don't know if he still has them.
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