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ctc911ctc
All,

As we all are, I am a bit obsessed with these cars and see a few more of them on my horizon, I would like to purchase a set of fasteners for the future so I am not waiting on the more specialized vendors.

I found myself measuring a 6mmx1.0 - 12mm long bolt and thought - someone has a list - or the holy grail - some vendor has a button I can push to order all of the correct fasteners?

Any ideas or leads?

CTC911CTC
Detroit
That seems like a daunting and really expensive task. These things came with good quality fasteners. I'd suggest that if you plan to rebuild/restore one in the future, just pull them all out, and drop them off at a plater. It'll cost you a hundred bucks give or take to do the entire car...
ctc911ctc
Already went that route - locally anodizing is pretty expensive - I have about 1/2 of them picked already on BelMetric - will continue depending on the outcome of this ask.

Thank you Detroit!


QUOTE(Detroit @ Mar 10 2025, 12:51 PM) *

That seems like a daunting and really expensive task. These things came with good quality fasteners. I'd suggest that is you plan to rebuild/restore one in the future, just pull them all out, and drop them off at a plater. It'll cost you a hundred bucks give or take to do the entire car...

gord
Here's the hardware list I put together a few years ago:
Click to view attachment

Detroit
Damn, gord, that must've taken ages...
brant
nice list.....

95 pages.
seems like re-using hardware is the easy button.
brant
mepstein
I’ve wired wheeled a lot of the fasteners and sent them out. Call PMB. Their rates are much better than your local guy (true 6?). Bel metric is fine for the normal stuff but at least a small percentage of the hardware is special to Porsche and the large nuts and bolts are expensive. I’ve done a couple parts in the past.
ctc911ctc
When you finished the car did it smell new?

Love the level of hardware attention - even the headlight mounting system!

Thank you,

VERY IMPRESSIVE


QUOTE(mepstein @ Mar 10 2025, 02:23 PM) *

I’ve wired wheeled a lot of the fasteners and sent them out. Call PMB. Their rates are much better than your local guy (true 6?). Bel metric is fine for the normal stuff but at least a small percentage of the hardware is special to Porsche and the large nuts and bolts are expensive. I’ve done a couple parts in the past.

ctc911ctc
If you like data - and I love data - this is an amazing list


My Belmetric Order just got sweet - also I will contact PMB for the not generic stuff.



QUOTE(gord @ Mar 10 2025, 01:15 PM) *

Here's the hardware list I put together a few years ago:
Click to view attachment

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windforfun
Where does the color come from? Also, German steel?

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rgalla9146

Hey Cary
The best way to clean up your engines appearance is to use only the original
hardware and finishes.
Porsche used certain suppliers who proudly marked their bolts with their company name or a letter identifier.
You'll find this is true of all of the 6mm tin and bolt fasteners on your engine.
The car is very original and undisturbed. Best plan is to keep it that way.
You don't want to hear this but degreasing, wire wheeling and plating the hardware
is an investment in the value of the car.
If you are short on standard hardware I probably have correct bolts.
Flat washers, wave washers ( by size) and split washers can be bought in bulk.
Rory

ctc911ctc
Good to know, the 6mm 1.0, x 12m hex bolts for the engine tin are in pretty bad shape - if they are marked as original - can you let me know how I would tell? I can send the hardware to PMB to be replated or may do it myself.........simple process.

I am de-greasing everything - check out the next set of pictures biggrin.gif



QUOTE(rgalla9146 @ Mar 10 2025, 06:37 PM) *

Hey Cary
The best way to clean up your engines appearance is to use only the original
hardware and finishes.
Porsche used certain suppliers who proudly marked their bolts with their company name or a letter identifier.
You'll find this is true of all of the 6mm tin and bolt fasteners on your engine.
The car is very original and undisturbed. Best plan is to keep it that way.
You don't want to hear this but degreasing, wire wheeling and plating the hardware
is an investment in the value of the car.
If you are short on standard hardware I probably have correct bolts.
Flat washers, wave washers ( by size) and split washers can be bought in bulk.
Rory

ctc911ctc
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bkrantz
I guess you could go through every page in the factory parts catalog. headbang.gif
rgalla9146
QUOTE(ctc911ctc @ Mar 10 2025, 09:28 PM) *

Good to know, the 6mm 1.0, x 12m hex bolts for the engine tin are in pretty bad shape - if they are marked as original - can you let me know how I would tell? I can send the hardware to PMB to be replated or may do it myself.........simple process.

I am de-greasing everything - check out the next set of pictures biggrin.gif



QUOTE(rgalla9146 @ Mar 10 2025, 06:37 PM) *

Hey Cary
The best way to clean up your engines appearance is to use only the original
hardware and finishes.
Porsche used certain suppliers who proudly marked their bolts with their company name or a letter identifier.
You'll find this is true of all of the 6mm tin and bolt fasteners on your engine.
The car is very original and undisturbed. Best plan is to keep it that way.
You don't want to hear this but degreasing, wire wheeling and plating the hardware
is an investment in the value of the car.
If you are short on standard hardware I probably have correct bolts.
Flat washers, wave washers ( by size) and split washers can be bought in bulk.
Rory



Cary these are the two most commonly used fasteners on 916 6 / 911 tin
If you are short on them let me know.
The machine screw is KAMAX
gord
QUOTE(Detroit @ Mar 10 2025, 12:21 PM) *

Damn, gord, that must've taken ages...


I deal with a lot of metadata in my job, so I had a few tools that made it much quicker than you might guess. The hard part was figuring out the incomplete or erroneous details in the PET diagrams… and some mysteries I’ve only partially solved.
gandalf_025
Unless something drastic has changed in the past year or so, Tru-6
is not a plater.. He is a middle man..
You send your parts there and they get cleaned and prepped and then he sends them out to be plated. When he gets them back they are tumbled and shined up and send back to you.
He does what would be considered "value added services" and charges for that.
You can do your own cleanup and prep and send parts to a plater yourself..

If you are looking for a plater, I would try looking up a reputable restoration shop in your area and ask where they send their parts..
DennisV
QUOTE(ctc911ctc @ Mar 10 2025, 10:32 AM) *

Any ideas or leads?

The Wurth Metric hardware set in yellow cad is a nice assortment of common fasteners to have on hand. It has saved me waiting for days to get one stupid bolt or washer on several occasions.
ChrisFoley
I was pretty happy with the hardware kits from Automobile Atlanta which were purchased during a couple of restorations done at my shop. That was more than 5 years ago so I don't know if he still has them.
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