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1970, 914-6, 93K miles - excellent shape, very minor rust
I will post to this thread occasionally as I move through this project, I have asked for guidance and received many good thoughts from this team - thank you 914World I am in the midst of removing the engine and transmission. All original. There is oil everywhere, not flowing but seeping - seems that the valve covers are not tightened or have loosened with age. Here are the first pics: On the rack - hopefully not for long: ![]() Shift Assembly is very clean, no wear, bushings are in good shape but all of them will be replaced ![]() ![]() ![]() Heat exchangers have no holes in the pipes that I could find, the surrounding tin has been treated with anti-rust leakage - perhaps this was the plan in Stuttgart? ![]() ![]() ![]() No plans to change the exhaust system - any guidance as to cleaning or preservation? All comments and guidance appreciated - engine coming down on Friday |
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Senior Member ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 594 Joined: 8-August 20 From: Santa Rosa, CA Member No.: 24,575 Region Association: Northern California ![]() ![]() |
1970, 914-6, 93K miles - excellent shape, very minor rust All comments and guidance appreciated - engine coming down on Friday Nice example. Thanks for sharing. You might consider a jack adapter for safely removing the engine. There are a variety of home made ways to do it. I am going to buy this when it comes time to install our freshly rebuilt engine. |
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Senior Member ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,000 Joined: 9-June 18 From: boston Member No.: 22,206 Region Association: North East States ![]() ![]() |
Great minds.................. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
It arrives on Friday from Pelican, that is why the drop is on Friday! 1970, 914-6, 93K miles - excellent shape, very minor rust All comments and guidance appreciated - engine coming down on Friday Nice example. Thanks for sharing. You might consider a jack adapter for safely removing the engine. There are a variety of home made ways to do it. I am going to buy this when it comes time to install our freshly rebuilt engine. |
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914 Guru ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 7,491 Joined: 2-January 09 From: Burlington wi Member No.: 9,892 Region Association: Upper MidWest ![]() ![]() |
1970, 914-6, 93K miles - excellent shape, very minor rust I will post to this thread occasionally as I move through this project, I have asked for guidance and received many good thoughts from this team - thank you 914World I am in the midst of removing the engine and transmission. All original. There is oil everywhere, not flowing but seeping - seems that the valve covers are not tightened or have loosened with age. Here are the first pics: On the rack - hopefully not for long: ![]() Shift Assembly is very clean, no wear, bushings are in good shape but all of them will be replaced ![]() ![]() ![]() Heat exchangers have no holes in the pipes that I could find, the surrounding tin has been treated with anti-rust leakage - perhaps this was the plan in Stuttgart? ![]() ![]() ![]() No plans to change the exhaust system - any guidance as to cleaning or preservation? All comments and guidance appreciated - engine coming down on Friday I have refurbished many original heat exchangers. I like to treat with Ospho then clean very well and paint with high heat gray primer. Works well |
ctc911ctc |
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Senior Member ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,000 Joined: 9-June 18 From: boston Member No.: 22,206 Region Association: North East States ![]() ![]() |
powder coat?
[/quote] I have refurbished many original heat exchangers. I like to treat with Ospho then clean very well and paint with high heat gray primer. Works well [/quote] |
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Senior Member ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 594 Joined: 8-August 20 From: Santa Rosa, CA Member No.: 24,575 Region Association: Northern California ![]() ![]() |
Great minds.................. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) It arrives on Friday from Pelican, that is why the drop is on Friday! Please post a follow up and let us know what you think of the adapter. |
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Michael ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 10,227 Joined: 1-November 08 From: Auburn, CA Member No.: 9,712 Region Association: Northern California ![]() ![]() |
If you are interested in doing more than Ben suggested, consider ceramic coating. But, I thinks Ben's suggestion is sound advise. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)
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Senior Member ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,000 Joined: 9-June 18 From: boston Member No.: 22,206 Region Association: North East States ![]() ![]() |
I found a very good powder coat shop here in the Boston area - they did all of my 2.0L engine tin as well as various other components.
I was going to have them do the engine tin as well as have them look at the heat exchangers, factory gray is a good idea - any more advice? Ceramic Gray? If you are interested in doing more than Ben suggested, consider ceramic coating. But, I thinks Ben's suggestion is sound advise. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif) |
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Life's been good to me so far..... ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Admin Posts: 16,137 Joined: 11-September 03 From: Hurst, TX. Member No.: 1,143 Region Association: NineFourteenerVille ![]() ![]() |
On our 70 914-6, the DAPO had the heat exchangers ceramic coated. They were already in excellent shape, and I think it will help preserve them.
I don't think it is a bad thing. On par with LED lighting and replacing the plastic fuel lines with stainless steel. |
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Senior Member ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,000 Joined: 9-June 18 From: boston Member No.: 22,206 Region Association: North East States ![]() ![]() |
I have a set of the stainless fuel line ready to go! LEDs too,
On our 70 914-6, the DAPO had the heat exchangers ceramic coated. They were already in excellent shape, and I think it will help preserve them. I don't think it is a bad thing. On par with LED lighting and replacing the plastic fuel lines with stainless steel. |
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Senior Member ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,000 Joined: 9-June 18 From: boston Member No.: 22,206 Region Association: North East States ![]() ![]() |
Drained the transmission last night, when I rolled out from under the car the cable from the trouble light pulled the oil catcher under the drain plug out of position. Did not notice for a few minutes - cleaned most of it last night, will be "Dawning" the floor tonight......sigh (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)
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Village Idiot ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 8,576 Joined: 25-May 04 From: About 5NM from Canada Member No.: 2,105 Region Association: Pacific Northwest ![]() ![]() |
Sure looks like a clean 914-6, can't wait to see more pictures!
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Advanced Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 3,905 Joined: 12-November 20 From: Buffalo Member No.: 24,877 Region Association: North East States ![]() ![]() |
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Advanced Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 2,438 Joined: 31-January 23 From: Granbury Texas Member No.: 27,135 Region Association: Southwest Region ![]() ![]() |
Drained the transmission last night, when I rolled out from under the car the cable from the trouble light pulled the oil catcher under the drain plug out of position. Did not notice for a few minutes - cleaned most of it last night, will be "Dawning" the floor tonight......sigh (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) DON'T DO THAT! Slimy mess will result. Gets some mineral sprits/carb spray/old school clay cat litter/paper towels. Clean most of it up with the carb spray and paper towels. Wet surface with mineral spirits, scrub it in with a brush. let sit 10 minutes and repeat. Let sit 10 minutes (keep it wet always!) then cover with the cat litter. The longer you let the litter sit improves the results. I'll let it sit overnight. The litter will act like a sponge and suck the gear oil OUT of the concrete. You can completely remove OLD stains from concrete this way as well. If you still want to you can finish with a super light amount of Dawn. I normally don't use it as the "soapiness" comes back anytime that section of concrete gets wet... |
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Senior Member ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,000 Joined: 9-June 18 From: boston Member No.: 22,206 Region Association: North East States ![]() ![]() |
Drained the transmission last night, when I rolled out from under the car the cable from the trouble light pulled the oil catcher under the drain plug out of position. Did not notice for a few minutes - cleaned most of it last night, will be "Dawning" the floor tonight......sigh (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) DON'T DO THAT! Slimy mess will result. Gets some mineral sprits/carb spray/old school clay cat litter/paper towels. Clean most of it up with the carb spray and paper towels. Wet surface with mineral spirits, scrub it in with a brush. let sit 10 minutes and repeat. Let sit 10 minutes (keep it wet always!) then cover with the cat litter. The longer you let the litter sit improves the results. I'll let it sit overnight. The litter will act like a sponge and suck the gear oil OUT of the concrete. You can completely remove OLD stains from concrete this way as well. If you still want to you can finish with a super light amount of Dawn. I normally don't use it as the "soapiness" comes back anytime that section of concrete gets wet... Excellent Guidance - THANK YOU I have an epoxy "cant find the part" floor. so no porous problems - same guidance? |
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Wanted: Engine case GA003709 ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Admin Posts: 7,958 Joined: 24-December 02 From: North Alabama Member No.: 6 Region Association: Galt's Gulch ![]() ![]() ![]() |
On our 70 914-6, the DAPO had the heat exchangers ceramic coated. They were already in excellent shape, and I think it will help preserve them. I don't think it is a bad thing. On par with LED lighting and replacing the plastic fuel lines with stainless steel. Jet Hot did an excellent job on those exchangers. They were like jewelry when I got them back. |
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Life's been good to me so far..... ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Admin Posts: 16,137 Joined: 11-September 03 From: Hurst, TX. Member No.: 1,143 Region Association: NineFourteenerVille ![]() ![]() |
On our 70 914-6, the DAPO had the heat exchangers ceramic coated. They were already in excellent shape, and I think it will help preserve them. I don't think it is a bad thing. On par with LED lighting and replacing the plastic fuel lines with stainless steel. Jet Hot did an excellent job on those exchangers. They were like jewelry when I got them back. Dude.. I am NOT complaining. They are great! I was recommending them. |
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Advanced Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 2,438 Joined: 31-January 23 From: Granbury Texas Member No.: 27,135 Region Association: Southwest Region ![]() ![]() |
Drained the transmission last night, when I rolled out from under the car the cable from the trouble light pulled the oil catcher under the drain plug out of position. Did not notice for a few minutes - cleaned most of it last night, will be "Dawning" the floor tonight......sigh (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) DON'T DO THAT! Slimy mess will result. Gets some mineral sprits/carb spray/old school clay cat litter/paper towels. Clean most of it up with the carb spray and paper towels. Wet surface with mineral spirits, scrub it in with a brush. let sit 10 minutes and repeat. Let sit 10 minutes (keep it wet always!) then cover with the cat litter. The longer you let the litter sit improves the results. I'll let it sit overnight. The litter will act like a sponge and suck the gear oil OUT of the concrete. You can completely remove OLD stains from concrete this way as well. If you still want to you can finish with a super light amount of Dawn. I normally don't use it as the "soapiness" comes back anytime that section of concrete gets wet... Excellent Guidance - THANK YOU I have an epoxy "cant find the part" floor. so no porous problems - same guidance? Nope. The epoxy solves the soak shit up problem. Just the carb cleaner and paper towels. Don't leave the carb cleaner on long time. I still wouldn't use the Dawn, but epoxy also doesn't allow the soapiness to soak in either. I have found the epoxy to be slippery anyway when wet. |
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Senior Member ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,000 Joined: 9-June 18 From: boston Member No.: 22,206 Region Association: North East States ![]() ![]() |
Found a 901 Core in CT yesterday, drove and picked it up - nice family, younger man - son- real car guy, had a few 914, and has never heard of 914WORLD (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif)
I gave him the URL - perhaps he will chime in??? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) I wanted to harvest a few parts (you all know the one I was hopeful for) - I was hopeful but not too much - Wow, I think i found a freshly re-built transmission - YOU DECIDE! The transmission is out of a car that burned in 86. Here it is: ![]() Case was easy to open and is a tail shifter. Here is a clue - there are two folded tabs Number 1 ![]() Number 2 ![]() Lets look at First Gear ![]() ![]() ![]() Sync Ring and Dog Teeth look near perfect to me - does anyone see anything different? Here are 2nd and third ![]() ![]() Here are 3rd, 4th and 5th 3rds sync is a bit worn, teeth look great ![]() 4th and 5th ![]() Dog teeth on 4th ![]() Dog Teeth on 5th ![]() So I ask all of you teeners - this tail shifter looks pretty good - perhaps the good doctor will weigh in? I will add my opinion after I read from a few of the more learned members - but I think it looks pretty good - there are a few clues that tell a story. THANK YOU TEENERS! |
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Advanced Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 4,704 Joined: 23-November 05 From: Paramus NJ Member No.: 5,176 Region Association: None ![]() ![]() |
Your impression of the internals is good ? put your 914 6 tailcover on it and install. repair/rebuild the original at your leisure |
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