The 914 race car arrived today, the 904 body is half built, but should be here soon. Very exciting!

Oh boy! This looks like fun . . . keep the pictures coming. Who makes the 904 body?

A friend of mine in Canada took a mold off an original body, so he is making one for me.

Since I sold Da Spoodster I have been very excited about this one, you have to keep the mind occupied!

Looking forward to the 904 build...seems like that should be way more popular...too many darn Cobra replicas!

Not sure the fuel cell is big enough

Looks like a great project.

Like skinning a rabbit, you can see the carcass in the background.

Never been crazy about secrets here....

http://members.shaw.ca/p962/fs.html

Cool!

What are you doing with that old body?
I happen to have a chassis that might look really nice with that body on it...

You do realize this is Dave Bottom's old IMSA race car?
This was also a Garretson track car
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I love the 904. Its a gorgeous car.

But I love the 914 too and that starting point looks like a great car already. This is a tough thread.

It's going on the wall of the shop, along with the other relics of cool Porsche past.

The race history is one of the reason's I bought the car, it has real race provenance, so when I put a checkered flag on the side of the 904 and take it on the track, it's because it was a winner, long before I had it. But I did not know about the IMSA history when I bought it, just that it had won some races in the Midwest.

Very cool. Interesting to see where this goes.

I love the 914 too, and sorely miss my 914/6 I sold about 10 years ago to free up money to buy my 60 356 Roadster, now real sixes are insane!!!

But I also have a special place in my heart for the 904, and since I can never every afford one I'm taking a page from the Ferry playbook.

"I looked around and could not find quite the car I dreamed of, so I decided to build it myself."

I have all the original body work including that unique rear wing. The hoods, fenders, rockers and bumpers will go on another car with IMSA history, the Metal Craft Bob Zulkowski car. I'll probably mount the wing on the wall:)

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Now that's cool!

I was a Metal Craft customer and friend. I know Bob Zulkowski and Troy Powell. They worked on 2 of my cars. I really got my love of Sixes from both of their Sixes.

Cool project. I've always wondered how much 904 got carried on to the 914.

If the info I found is correct, the track is very close but the 914's wheelbase is 150mm longer.

How will that work out on the 904 body?

About 6", cut the floor down like the VW pan on a dune buggy.

But the VW bug has a back seat! 6" is a lot to loose, especially if you're tall.

Mod a CFR rear trail arm lower kit and move it forward
Impossible to know with a trial fitting.

I'd be more concerned to see if the front struts will fit. I know they won't fit on a RSK kit.

The RSK kit that I saw they used the front end of a bug and 914 in the rear, total custom tube chassis.
To me, if you run into the same issue, this might be a waste of a perfectly good 914 tub.

Luckily for everyone I am doing a mock-up on a 914 I paid $300 for years ago, long before I start cutting on this one. I am doing to dry fit everything to the first chassis, this way I make all the bad cuts on the one that doesn't matter.
I don't think anyone will shed a tear over the center seat monster getting sliced and diced. That car has been sitting at the old warehouse for about 7 years, I couldn't bring myself to get rid of it, and now I'm glad I didn't.

I love my copy I equiped it with Subaru WRX engine.
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Seems like after slicing and dicing a race-prepped chassis (removing 6" from wheelbase and/or changing susp. geometry) that has been successfully tested, balanced and raced, you'll be starting all over again. But then again, if you just plan to take it back to VW roots and cruise between stop lights, then go for it. It's your ride.

How many people remember the Auto Atlanta 9014?

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Huh, now I think I'm gonna be sick......

Here's an interesting 914 / 904....

http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?sho...=247031&hl=

It's too bad all he has is a before and after pic, nothing about how he did it, or what he did.

I'm with Glenn
Waste of a good race car (with history !)
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Waste of a good looking replica body
Waste of time to create a mis-matched mess

And who said the Gallagher brothers had no vision...

Just the opinion of one brother.
My vision ? 20/20

#69 proudly hung in the shop.

Sorry to butt in, but.....

I also agree with Glenn. Authentic vintage race cars have potential dollar value and nostalgia value for the entire community. Your frankenstein car may come out to be very cool, but will have value only to you.

I have seen a lot of well built 914 track/race cars sell in the recent past with no provenance, why not start with one of those??

I would have, except all the guys with recent builds wanted $25,000-50,000, I picked this car up for $15,000. I also got a lot of guys with half built 914/6 conversions wanting over $20,000. This car represented the best value.

This car was not my first choice, I really wanted an older six conversion that needed cosmetics, but none could be found. I then started looking at race cars and like I said, anything built recently was 2-3 times the money.

If anyone wants to trade their six conversion for this car, I am all ears.

Key word here.....

At least he is doing something with it, unlike the poor cars in this thread...

http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showtopic=251879

Glenn, Check your PM's thanks

Here you go
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This car has not seen a track since about 2005, I will return it to driving. The last owner did not drive it, not once. It was also for sale on ebay for a long long time, so anyone who was interested had a chance to buy it. Like I said, this was not my first choice but there was nothing anywhere near the price, not for what I got, a carbed 3.2, with a sequential gearbox.
@gms, are you showing me what a 904 frame looks like? That's great but if I fabbed that up and built it, then it's not a Porsche. If I build this car, it's a Porsche.

There were over 120k of these cars made. Plenty to go around. It looks like you have a vision. I hope you will take it to completion. Nothing worse than an unfinished project car. Have fun!

The last car I did came out great, bear in mind this car left the Factory as a 58 A Coupe.

You can read about the whole 5 year build here.

Link?

http://forum.porsche356registry.org/viewto...hilit=spoodster

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DGT0LtzT7Jg


Good to see it raced.
tres bon.

The Orange 904

http://www.ddk-online.com/phpBB2/viewtopic...=15&t=51499


Good to know,a source for a windscreen:

"To continue with the story.
When the front half of the wooden buck was more or less finished, it dawned on me ( I'm not necessarily the sharpest knife in the box) that I needed a windscreen.
It is a lot easier to make the buck fit the windscreen than it is to find a windscreen to fit a buck.
A telephone call to Porsche brought a very sniffy reply as to what chassis number I had and that screens were no longer available but that "plastic"
ones were available in California.At that time an article appeared in "Classic and Sports Car" about a company making screens for classic cars such as Morris Minors, Austin A40s and the like.
The response to my call was that they had never heard of a Porsche 904 but after a few minutes conversation I was told that the computer records showed that there was a mould.
The chap told me that he had been there over 25 years and that the mould had never been out of the rack but he would send me a drawing to check it was the correct item.
I was then told that they could not supply me direct as they had agents throughout the country. I was to order a specific part number from the Scottish agent but also to tell him that I had been told the ex-works price (I was not told the actual price) to avoid the agent adding too much to the selling price. The telephone call was duly made and after a few expletives about the price a deal was done. Six weeks later a screen was delivered. So remember that a mould exists the next time you need a 904 screen!"

http://www.pilkington.com/en-gb/uk/automot...-models/porsche --> #6700

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http://www.goodingco.com/vehicle/1964-pors...04-carrera-gts/

The why of it,and the desire for a reasonable facsimile.http://www.ebay.com/bhp/porsche-904
Using a small model of the correct shape is a good place to start for your 904 quest,as a reference with which to compare the results.
Getting the shape right is a primary objective and even minor deviations are plain to see,resulting in dissatisfaction.
914-6+(904)=one nice little mid.

Ya gotta appreciate the workload ahead,an adaptation of the 914's floorpan to the exotic 904.
Some serious design work to fit a torque box to the chopped 914 bulkheads,to carry the front suspension.
Alain De Cadenet
http://www.streetfire.net/video/victory-by...-gts_192088.htm
http://bringatrailer.com/2009/01/29/nicest...-904-gts-clone/
http://bringatrailer.com/2011/10/25/blue-c...904-6-cylinder/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=My-Lv3fqplU
The Ace of Spades,a fait accompli,and a good indicator of probability of success.

Edit:04/11/15
http://scootermcrad.blogspot.ca/2014/07/po...conception.html
Sum nice pix.
http://rennlist.com/forums/general-porsche...too-stupid.html
Resistance to change means you are doing something right.

Very cool project!

Who did the body? I like the fact that it has the original wheel arches without the flares that Beck added.

Looking forward to see the progress

There is a dude in Canada who took the mold off an original. The fact that it isn't flared and doesn't have the wing is why I went with him. The later 904's did have those changes but I wanted one that looked early.