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> WTB Muffler -triad or mcfarland 2.0, wtb muller for a 4 cylinder 2.0
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post Jun 18 2025, 04:23 PM
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hello looking to buy either a triad or a McFarland muffler.
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post Jun 20 2025, 06:06 AM
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I like the title but been about 5 years since I did any of these and most don’t realize the current offerings are all but the same unit with a different name and I am not involved anymore not by choice (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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post Jun 20 2025, 06:11 AM
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Yea, Ben got screwed and I’ll personally never support the “current offerings”.
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I am with you on that Mark.
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I feel the same, Ben was not treated very well
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post Jun 21 2025, 07:16 AM
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Carl wants the same set up I have - Ben’s sport 2 in 2 out. If there’s a spare out there it would be going to a good home.
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post Jun 21 2025, 07:33 AM
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Carl wants the same set up I have - Ben’s sport 1 in 2 out. If there’s a spare out there it would be going to a good home.



Doesn’t that “other company “ sell those as well?
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post Jun 21 2025, 10:38 AM
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QUOTE(mb911 @ Jun 21 2025, 07:33 AM) *

QUOTE(OrangeBones @ Jun 21 2025, 05:16 AM) *

Carl wants the same set up I have - Ben’s sport 1 in 2 out. If there’s a spare out there it would be going to a good home.



Doesn’t that “other company “ sell those as well?


I THINK I know who you're talking about, and I don't even see a 2.0 muffler offering on their site??? I know there's a company out of Taiwan that makes "similar" mufflers but not the same(their mufflers look very similar to yours, but apparently there's no conflict????).

I don't know all the in's & out's of your situation, but your old mufflers do look great. Given all the 914 mufflers out there, present & past, I don't see how it could be proprietary??? Is it the baffling in the inside or the shape? It seems like you could modify the design by 3/8'ths of an inch here or there and/or change the baffling/flow/materials on the inside a bit, and it would be very hard to litigate a case against you insinuating that are reproducing someone else's muffler. I DO realize that from your perspective, they are already reproducing your muffler....I assume.

I guess my point is that if you could circumnavigate the supposed "design patent infringement" by modifying the design, I'm sure just based on your welding abiliities & reputation, you'd easily be able to position yourself back on top of the market. If the people are asking for more, it seems like there is still a void to fill. Just my 2 cents. I know...really not my business.
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post Jun 21 2025, 11:21 AM
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It’s a long story and Ben is too much of a gentleman to trash the people involved. I’m 99% sure he’s moved on and has no future plans to build them again.
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post Jun 21 2025, 03:43 PM
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It’s a long story and Ben is too much of a gentleman to trash the people involved. I’m 99% sure he’s moved on and has no future plans to build them again.

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Never again will I make exhaust products or be involved with them. I just do a few heat exchangers and that’s it but those are 993 conversion.
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