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1970 914-6 all stock
All, I am down to the last thing for this engine re-fresh: CARBS They seem to be in very good condition and since they are missing the Porsche factory mark I am guessing that they were 'cored' on a rebuild sometime prior to my ownership OR Are 914-6 carbs NOT market like 911 carbs are??????? Anyway, I have not gone too deep since they are in great shape - the gaskets seem good, the floats are the brass kind but in perfect shape, the bowls are very clean,,,,,, Can I get some direction on: 1. what to look for in a recently rebuilt carb 2. where is a good reference for setup prior to installation Any other opinions would be well received, Thank you Teeners YES I KNOW (IMG:style_emoticons/default/thisthreadisworthlesswithoutpics.gif) Pictures will be added later |
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Hey nice rack! -Celette ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 20,977 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Now in Superior WI Member No.: 43 Region Association: Northstar Region ![]() ![]() ![]() |
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Retired & living the dream. God help me if I wake up! ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 8,905 Joined: 2-December 06 From: So.Cal. & No.AZ (USA) Member No.: 7,300 Region Association: Southern California ![]() ![]() |
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914 Wizard ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 10,863 Joined: 12-September 04 From: Life Elevated..planet UT. Member No.: 2,744 Region Association: Rocky Mountains ![]() ![]() ![]() |
What Porsche marking are you referring to ?
they sound like the ones made after weber. not italian....PMO sold em a bunch.. Italian Weber for a -6 is stamped 40 IDTP 3c, its on this nos carb but bad lighting .. smog carb with a stepped idle mix screw. IDAS have full taper Attached image(s) ![]() ![]() |
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Advanced Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 4,839 Joined: 25-July 15 From: New Zealand Member No.: 18,995 Region Association: None ![]() |
1970 914-6 all stock All, I am down to the last thing for this engine re-fresh: CARBS They seem to be in very good condition and since they are missing the Porsche factory mark I am guessing that they were 'cored' on a rebuild sometime prior to my ownership OR Are 914-6 carbs NOT market like 911 carbs are??????? Anyway, I have not gone too deep since they are in great shape - the gaskets seem good, the floats are the brass kind but in perfect shape, the bowls are very clean,,,,,, Can I get some direction on: 1. what to look for in a recently rebuilt carb 2. where is a good reference for setup prior to installation Any other opinions would be well received, Thank you Teeners YES I KNOW (IMG:style_emoticons/default/thisthreadisworthlesswithoutpics.gif) Pictures will be added later Without part numbers it's real hard to tell what you have,as your car is relatively low mileage you should have original spec carbs still on there . Have look @ the carbs you have and look for tell tail signs of fastener and the brass gallery plug wear which is a good indicator they have been apart . Problem is folks pull them apart with crappy old tools . See how you go ,cheers. |
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clean em up and run em
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Cary When I worked on the car 25 years ago (!) it had OEM 914 6 Webers. When I bought the car 5 (?) ago it had those new replacement Webers. I think the previous owner or his wife had the carbs replaced. Rory |
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Cary When I worked on the car 25 years ago (!) it had OEM 914 6 Webers. When I bought the car 5 (?) ago it had those new replacement Webers. I think the previous owner or his wife had the carbs replaced. Rory Hey Rory, they seemed to run way too rich but when I took one apart all is clean and new, too bad the originals were cored….. Will recalibrate and see how it goes, thank you Rory |
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914 Wizard ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 11,969 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Colorado Member No.: 47 Region Association: Rocky Mountains ![]() ![]() ![]() |
I’m not aware of any aftermarket 3 barrel carbs made other than pmo version
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1970 914-6 all stock Can I get some direction on: 1. what to look for in a recently rebuilt carb 2. where is a good reference for setup prior to installation Any other opinions would be well received, 1. general cleanliness, correct seals and washers, and of course if it runs right. 2. The defacto source for 3c knowledge when it comes to Porsche is on Performance Oriented (web site) Familiarize your self with the best lean setup. You need to set up linkage correctly and go through all the other procedures like setting the float bowls and using the syncrometer to balance vacuum. The car's timing, idle and carb setup are all related, if one is off, nothing runs right. I’m not aware of any aftermarket 3 barrel carbs made other than pmo version As pictured above, the more rough version of the weber 3c body casting was made in the USA in the 90s by Carter which Weber purchased to try to enter the USA auto market. Recently there are Spanish version of Weber 3c as well. The early 911 Weber carbs are all made in Italy and it's stamped on the side. Also "reedmoral by Lantech" is apparently a chinese knockoff of the weber 40 ida 3c" |
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914 Wizard ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 11,969 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Colorado Member No.: 47 Region Association: Rocky Mountains ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Don’t forget to measure and adjust accel pumps also
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914 Guru ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 9,142 Joined: 17-January 05 From: San Angelo Texas Member No.: 3,457 Region Association: Southwest Region ![]() ![]() |
China now making replacement carbs.
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Senior Member ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,146 Joined: 9-June 18 From: boston Member No.: 22,206 Region Association: North East States ![]() ![]() |
Here are the pictures I promised, first, here is the model stamps of the carb
![]() there is some question as to the originality of the carbs - according to Carl at Klassic Automotive Training School, there is a stamp on every carb that goes through the Porsche Factory, it should be right here: ![]() He talks about this and much more in one of his videos, all of which are very informative, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p3qwIbRdcvE&t=60s Inside is very clean, stained in a few places, but clean. Floats are in perfect shape, did not use compressed air to clean them.....grin ![]() ![]() ![]() When I opened the gasket seemed new and the interfaces were very clean. Attached thumbnail(s) ![]() |
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Senior Member ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,146 Joined: 9-June 18 From: boston Member No.: 22,206 Region Association: North East States ![]() ![]() |
..................Continued.................
Inside of the carb is very clean, here are a few examples. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Question is where to start on a carb that seems to be in very good shape but needs to have all of the adjustments made.....???? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif) |
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914 Wizard ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 10,863 Joined: 12-September 04 From: Life Elevated..planet UT. Member No.: 2,744 Region Association: Rocky Mountains ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Not Even Italian....
Those are from PMO way back when ...Caution some had a depth problem for the Emulsion tubes,,There may be a small spacer under each E tube.. Stock 2.0 you say you have ?? spec cheater list Attached image(s) ![]() |
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914 Wizard ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 10,863 Joined: 12-September 04 From: Life Elevated..planet UT. Member No.: 2,744 Region Association: Rocky Mountains ![]() ![]() ![]() |
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Almost matching…………huh……..are they off of the same car? |
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