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Accelerator cable not translating pedal movement to carb action |
Tdskip |
Aug 24 2024, 12:31 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,702 Joined: 1-December 17 From: soCal Member No.: 21,666 Region Association: None |
Hope everybody is having a good weekend and thanks in advance for any thoughts or suggestions.
I have it should be an easy problem to solve that I haven’t solved – I believe the accelerator cable that came in this project is simply too long because when the gas pedal is pressed the cable flexes to a point where the physical motion from the gas pedal doesn’t translate to the same pull on the carb linkage. In other words, the cable moves around enough that it doesn’t effectively pull the carburetor linkage to increase power. I have a replacement cable, but before I go through that I wanted to ask to see if there’s something that maybe other people encountered or that comes to mind that I’m missing. Cable has the red arrows pointing to it. Thanks! |
76-914 |
Aug 24 2024, 03:12 PM
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Repeat Offender & Resident Subaru Antagonist Group: Members Posts: 13,646 Joined: 23-January 09 From: Temecula, CA Member No.: 9,964 Region Association: Southern California |
I would strap the cable down so it cannot flop around. Next I would clamp the cable with some vice grips at the point it exits the sheath. If your pedal moves any after that then something wonky is going on with the cable or the conduit it resides in. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)
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burton73 |
Aug 24 2024, 03:23 PM
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burton73 Group: Members Posts: 3,691 Joined: 2-January 07 From: Los Angeles Member No.: 7,414 Region Association: Southern California |
I would like to see the end where it connects to the linkage. My guess is it is too long.
I think you can a new end on the cable and solder it on or crimp, not sure but look for cable ends. The picture shown a cable that it looks like there is an adjustment. What does you connection point look like. Not my car shown Best Bob B |
Tdskip |
Aug 24 2024, 05:03 PM
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cgnj |
Aug 24 2024, 06:57 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 642 Joined: 6-March 03 From: Medford, NJ Member No.: 403 Region Association: None |
When I was using a hex bar linkage, I mounted the carbs so that the bar was closer to the flywheel.
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bkrantz |
Aug 24 2024, 07:46 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 8,173 Joined: 3-August 19 From: SW Colorado Member No.: 23,343 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
If the engine compartment cable housing is in good shape, and fully seated at both ends, then even if it swings a bit the motion of the inner cable should transmit from one end to the other. Another place that movement can get lost is in the tunnel. If the rigid tubing for the throttle cable has detached from the tunnel, then some or all of the pedal motion and cable movement will be lost.
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Spoke |
Aug 24 2024, 07:49 PM
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Jerry Group: Members Posts: 7,104 Joined: 29-October 04 From: Allentown, PA Member No.: 3,031 Region Association: None |
Something doesn't seem right. If both ends of the sheath are stable, the pulling of the cable at one end should be the same at the other end. But if one side of the sheath is loose, then moving the accelerator peddle wouldn't produce the same movement at the engine.
Check in the tunnel for proper connections and that the sheath is stable at both ends. |
SirAndy |
Aug 24 2024, 11:18 PM
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Resident German Group: Admin Posts: 41,935 Joined: 21-January 03 From: Oakland, Kalifornia Member No.: 179 Region Association: Northern California |
Something doesn't seem right. If both ends of the sheath are stable, the pulling of the cable at one end should be the same at the other end. But if one side of the sheath is loose, then moving the accelerator peddle wouldn't produce the same movement at the engine. Check in the tunnel for proper connections and that the sheath is stable at both ends. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) |
Tdskip |
Aug 25 2024, 06:56 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,702 Joined: 1-December 17 From: soCal Member No.: 21,666 Region Association: None |
Thanks for all the ideas and suggestions.
Very much appreciated. |
VaccaRabite |
Aug 26 2024, 06:15 AM
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En Garde! Group: Admin Posts: 13,615 Joined: 15-December 03 From: Dallastown, PA Member No.: 1,435 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
Spoke nailed it.
As long as the sheath is locked into place, and the cable is attached at the pedal and the throttle arm - the cable will actuate and length does not matter at all. If there is slack between the throttle arm and the sheath clamp - that will kill you. You may need to fabricate a clamp that is further back to get the spacing right. There should be ZERO slack between the throttle arm and the sheath clamp. Any slack there means loss of travel when the gas pedal is pushed, as well as loss of throttle response. Zach |
Tdskip |
Oct 10 2024, 05:34 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,702 Joined: 1-December 17 From: soCal Member No.: 21,666 Region Association: None |
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914werke |
Oct 10 2024, 06:01 PM
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"I got blisters on me fingers" Group: Members Posts: 11,010 Joined: 22-March 03 From: USofA Member No.: 453 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
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SirAndy |
Oct 11 2024, 09:27 AM
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Resident German Group: Admin Posts: 41,935 Joined: 21-January 03 From: Oakland, Kalifornia Member No.: 179 Region Association: Northern California |
You guys nailed it - thanks. Can you shoot another picture of that area but zoomed out a bit?I see all sort of wrong there ... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif) |
Tdskip |
Oct 11 2024, 10:00 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,702 Joined: 1-December 17 From: soCal Member No.: 21,666 Region Association: None |
@SirAndy 2 here you go. Hope it had been a good week, thanks for the eyes on this.
One of those cables is for an amplifier for the stereo. |
Tdskip |
Oct 11 2024, 11:08 AM
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NARP74 |
Oct 11 2024, 12:07 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,295 Joined: 29-July 20 From: Colorado, USA, Earth Member No.: 24,549 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
Fuel line replacement is in your near future.
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SirAndy |
Oct 11 2024, 12:37 PM
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Resident German Group: Admin Posts: 41,935 Joined: 21-January 03 From: Oakland, Kalifornia Member No.: 179 Region Association: Northern California |
Oh geez - did the PO route the throttle cable through the wrong opening? Well, yes, they did. For starters, it isn't supposed to go up and through the hole for the rubber snorkel. In fact, you can see that they had to remove the snorkel top from the hole to make space for the cable (and amp wire). No wonder it broke, trying to make a 90 degree bend right there. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/shades.gif) |
930cabman |
Oct 11 2024, 01:10 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,772 Joined: 12-November 20 From: Buffalo Member No.: 24,877 Region Association: North East States |
Fuel line replacement is in your near future. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) Good catch, sooner rather than later |
Tdskip |
Oct 13 2024, 08:49 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,702 Joined: 1-December 17 From: soCal Member No.: 21,666 Region Association: None |
Thank you gentlemen, appreciate the reply’s
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